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[Khafee]

No there are loopholes and everytime government pushes for even a small changes
“Pakistan khapay” slogans are raised and other opposition joins in.
With out a constitutional amandement nothing can be done. There are simply no votes to change anything in the parliament.

Not surprisingly the party that has only Angels was blissfully unaware of ground realities, while making pre-election promises.

As usual, excuses and no results.

I gave you a solution, divert funds to KMC, if they squander it then federal govt can move in and take charge. Instead of sitting on the sidelines like an impotent howling monkey.

 

[Safri167]

With out a constitutional amandement nothing can be done. There are simply no votes to change anything in the parliament.

so is he waiting for votes?
at the end of 5 years will these words be used ?
why not resign and live a life of dignity.

 

[baqai]

Karachi ki awam is so fed up kai if Shahbaz Shariff comes and work and turn out the city like he did for Lahore than Karachi will become a PMLN vote bank for sure, we need someone to step forward and work for it, we are beyond shia, sunni, sindhi, mahajir and what not, everyone just came and raped us

 

[TomCat]

Karachi ki awam is so fed up kai if Shahbaz Shariff comes and work and turn out the city like he did for Lahore than Karachi will become a PMLN vote bank for sure, we need someone to step forward and work for it, we are beyond shia, sunni, sindhi, mahajir and what not, everyone just came and raped us

Yesss

 

[Zeeman]

How you take people with beards is your problem, dont pollute the forum with silly comments. Grow up.

Wait everything we say is silly, stupid and unnecessary and everything you post is the word of wisdom?

I will humbly request that you reconsider your approach to engaging in debate. There is no right and wrong when debating an issue. We are just exchanging ideas and trying to back ideas with facts.

Every time you are unable to carry forward your argument you come down to ridicule the poster.

This is exactly what happened to Pakdef. Once my favourite spot to spend time turned poisonous due to condescending and insulting attitude of H khan .

If you don’t want to discuss anything let me know and I will not waste time posting.
I asked you in private not to take things seriously but your tone is getting worse and worse.

I never have known IK shoving his religion down anyone’s throat. However at least once a week I have the tableeghi jamat, different mosque halaqa groups and religious groups trying to make me join them and push their agenda down my throat.

I do not discuss religion ever and have no time to indulge in proving I am holier than thou.

 

[Khafee]

I thought Karachi was under PTI control. They voted for MQM again? If that's true then they deserve all the calamities that befall them. Personally I don't care for racist bigots that vote for a racist party. So I'm out of this discussion, they deserve this.

As far as the National assembly is concerned, YES. On the provincial level, No. Why do you think we have them by their tail?

Btw, People are voting for MQM for another reason, which has nothing to do with racism. The other options they have is PPP, and PTI.
All 3 parties are equally useless, so people go with people who have actually delivered 1% once upon a time.

 

[TomCat]

Wait everything we say is silly, stupid and unnecessary and everything you post is the word of wisdom?

I will humbly request that you reconsider your approach to engaging in debate. There is no right and wrong when debating an issue. We are just exchanging ideas and trying to back ideas with facts.

Every time you are unable to carry forward your argument you come down to ridicule the poster.

This is exactly what happened to Pakdef. Once my favourite spot to spend time turned poisonous due to condescending and insulting attitude of H khan .

If you don’t want to discuss anything let me know and I will not waste time posting.
I asked you in private not to take things seriously but your tone is getting worse and worse.

I never have known IK shoving his religion down anyone’s throat. However at least once a week I have the tableeghi jamat, different mosque halaqa groups and religious groups trying to make me join them and push their agenda down my throat.

I do not discuss religion ever and have no time to indulge in proving I am holier than thou.

First off, cool down. No more escalation
I know the lady teeth and the insurance has taken a toll.
But you have to understand,
The point in debate is the capability of Imran Khan, You are defending him blindly while we are putting points on the basis of ground reality.
Don’t you think any of us wanted him to succeed?
Everyone looked to him, but you aren’t in Pak, you are just using news channels, I am in Pak and many others, What is going on here, We Know it And unfortunately with a deep heart, Imran has increased our misery

 

[Khafee]

Karachi ki awam is so fed up kai if Shahbaz Shariff comes and work and turn out the city like he did for Lahore than Karachi will become a PMLN vote bank for sure, we need someone to step forward and work for it, we are beyond shia, sunni, sindhi, mahajir and what not, everyone just came and raped us

Yesss

Try explaining that to PTI supporters, for whom exactly like MQM & PPP, thier leader is infallible.

 

[TomCat]

Wait everything we say is silly, stupid and unnecessary and everything you post is the word of wisdom?

I will humbly request that you reconsider your approach to engaging in debate. There is no right and wrong when debating an issue. We are just exchanging ideas and trying to back ideas with facts.

Every time you are unable to carry forward your argument you come down to ridicule the poster.

This is exactly what happened to Pakdef. Once my favourite spot to spend time turned poisonous due to condescending and insulting attitude of H khan .

If you don’t want to discuss anything let me know and I will not waste time posting.
I asked you in private not to take things seriously but your tone is getting worse and worse.

I never have known IK shoving his religion down anyone’s throat. However at least once a week I have the tableeghi jamat, different mosque halaqa groups and religious groups trying to make me join them and push their agenda down my throat.

I do not discuss religion ever and have no time to indulge in proving I am holier than thou.

As for the tableeghi people inviting you for some chit chat ,
Bhai, Jahan hum dunya ko itna time dete hain, Thora time unki batein bhi sunlia karo takay akhirat bhi yad rahe.
Ye na ho ke agli sans band aur phir dunya ko jo time dia uska koi faida nai qabar mein.

They don’t have any agenda, They are plain simple people mostly, Just encouraged by their local emirs to get people to spend an hour a week in their circle to get islamic knowledge

But then, It is your wish.

 

[TomCat]

Try explaining that to PTI supporters, for whom exactly like MQM & PPP, thier leader is infallible.

Inexplainable mate

 

[Zeeman]

I cannot do that.

As for the tableeghi people inviting you for some chit chat ,
Bhai, Jahan hum dunya ko itna time dete hain, Thora time unki batein bhi sunlia karo takay akhirat bhi yad rahe.
Ye na ho ke agli sans band aur phir dunya ko jo time dia uska koi faida nai qabar mein.

They don’t have any agenda, They are plain simple people mostly, Just encouraged by their local emirs to get people to spend an hour a week in their circle to get islamic knowledge

But then, It is your wish.

Really you believe in that. My family belonged to Jamat I Islami and I still have sympathies for Jamat.

these Tablighi Jamat people are an absolute disaster here . We call them marriage breakers. They come encourage people to take time off from work and family and travel up north to convert native Canadians . How about come and sit in my office for two days and watch how almost our entire community indulges In lies and cheating unmatched by any other community. Why not work to change those who are already Muslims rather than making new Muslims .

I told you the story of my maulvi sahab opening mosques in Cuba and ended up marrying a local young girl and leaving his3-4 kids and wife alone here ? Do you know who was financing his activities ?

no thankyou. I have people who know and talk religion according to Quran and sunnah and is practical and true.

 

[TomCat]

I cannot do that.


Really you believe in that. My family belonged to Jamat I Islami and I still have sympathies for Jamat.

these Tablighi Jamat people are an absolute disaster here . We call them marriage breakers. They come encourage people to take time off from work and family and travel up north to convert native Canadians . How about come and sit in my office for two days and watch how almost our entire community indulges In lies and cheating unmatched by any other community. Why not work to change those who are already Muslims rather than making new Muslims .

I told you the story of my maulvi sahab opening mosques in Cuba and ended up marrying a local young girl and leaving his3-4 kids and wife alone here ? Do you know who was financing his activities ?

no thankyou. I have people who know and talk religion according to Quran and sunnah and is practical and true.

You might have had a bad experience,
I conveyed my experience.

As for the marriage breaker thing, Never heard of such, Do let me know some story

 

[TomCat]

I cannot do that.


Really you believe in that. My family belonged to Jamat I Islami and I still have sympathies for Jamat.

these Tablighi Jamat people are an absolute disaster here . We call them marriage breakers. They come encourage people to take time off from work and family and travel up north to convert native Canadians . How about come and sit in my office for two days and watch how almost our entire community indulges In lies and cheating unmatched by any other community. Why not work to change those who are already Muslims rather than making new Muslims .

I told you the story of my maulvi sahab opening mosques in Cuba and ended up marrying a local young girl and leaving his3-4 kids and wife alone here ? Do you know who was financing his activities ?

no thankyou. I have people who know and talk religion according to Quran and sunnah and is practical and true.

As for what you said “Improve existing people”, I second it.

However, If that isn’t the priority of the tableeghi people from your area, They need a different head.

 

[Khafee]

Wait everything we say is silly, stupid and unnecessary and everything you post is the word of wisdom?

I will humbly request that you reconsider your approach to engaging in debate. There is no right and wrong when debating an issue. We are just exchanging ideas and trying to back ideas with facts.

Every time you are unable to carry forward your argument you come down to ridicule the poster.

This is exactly what happened to Pakdef. Once my favourite spot to spend time turned poisonous due to condescending and insulting attitude of H khan .


If you don’t want to discuss anything let me know and I will not waste time posting.
I asked you in private not to take things seriously but your tone is getting worse and worse.

1) When you accused ME of lying to prove a point, you lost the privilege of being addressed respectfully. To get respect, you need to give respect as well. IT is a two way street.

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Just answer me one thing What is the ideology of PTI and does it fulfill it ? Bass... Alhamdullilah jis din voting thi, PTI ko vote dene jana tha but I rather chose to stay home and play some chess. Imran khan wasn’t supposed to be a PTI leader, We wanted him to get power so that he could...

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2) When you quote Articles like this, and claim PPP stopped PTI from cleaning up Khi, this has to be one of the most ludicrous statement in history! You are inadvertently admitting to PTI being impotent, and a total waste to those who voted for them.

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The only solution I see is to make this land of Pure part of China, officially. Let the commies sort out the corruption the way they do in their land. Folks in Pak do not have in their dna to change for the better.

world-defense.com

Note: In both cases, I have posted my posts, which are quoting yours, since they can not be edited.

I never have known IK shoving his religion down anyone’s throat. However at least once a week I have the tableeghi jamat, different mosque halaqa groups and religious groups trying to make me join them and push their agenda down my throat.

I do not discuss religion ever and have no time to indulge in proving I am holier than thou.

See these pics below, this is how IK propagates his piousness. To defend this, you indulge in insulting the Prophet SAWS Sunnah i.e. the Beard, and Tableeghi Jammat and what not.

Who in the world uses a Tasbeeh like this? Literally in your face?

 

[Zeeman]

1) When you accused ME of lying to prove a point, you lost the privilege of being addressed respectfully. To get respect, you need to give respect as well. IT is a two way street.

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Just answer me one thing What is the ideology of PTI and does it fulfill it ? Bass... Alhamdullilah jis din voting thi, PTI ko vote dene jana tha but I rather chose to stay home and play some chess. Imran khan wasn’t supposed to be a PTI leader, We wanted him to get power so that he could...

world-defense.com

2) When you quote Articles like this, and claim PPP stopped PTI from cleaning up Khi, this has to be one of the most ludicrous statement in history! You are inadvertently admitting to PTI being impotent, and a total waste to those who voted for them.

Pakistan News & Discussions

The only solution I see is to make this land of Pure part of China, officially. Let the commies sort out the corruption the way they do in their land. Folks in Pak do not have in their dna to change for the better.

world-defense.com

Note: In both cases, I have posted my posts, which are quoting yours, since they can not be edited.



See these pics below, this is how IK propagates his piousness. To defend this, you indulge in insulting the Prophet SAWS Sunnah i.e. the Beard, and Tableeghi Jammat and what not.


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Who in the world uses a Tasbeeh like this? Literally in your face?

Respect is earned not demanded. I am not sure where I called you a liar.

Let’s be clear about something. I do not need respect from you or anyone . Allah Subhan gives respect and takes it away as he wills.


Do not accuse me of insulting Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). You are not a religious scholar to give fatwas about others. Typical desi mentality of when loosing argument to accuse opponent for insulting Islam .

You need to worry about what you believe in and not others . As I said the Tablighi Jamat’s role today is not of reforming and improving ummah but rather that of spreading their own version of Islam.

As for insulting beard, many people use beard as a cover to commit wrong and even horrible crimes .... there is no link to Sunnah here.

Try not to preach your narrow minded version of Islam. I am very happy with what I know and practice.

Some infamous people with beard for your information who also claimed they are Muslim by blowing

Consider this to be my last post in this topic. I have better things to do.

By the way feel free to ban me ..... my wife will be ecstatic....