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[Gripen9]

out of all the politicians i hate Imran Khan the most, rest atleast don't fucking go around with tasbeeh in hand portray to be an angel, read Jawaid Miandad's autobiography and learn how much of a rascist cunt this person is. Allah gharaak karay iss ullu kai pathay ku Ameen

Please suggest an alternative?

 

[Red Nucleus]

Please suggest an alternative?

Exactly...thank you @Gripen9 ! IK certainly deserves criticism for things that he has or hasnt done but I find this over the top anger and criticism curious and more importantly, who would you choose as as an alternative based on what we have already seen? Or do you have other individuals in mind who still havent been PM etc? Bilawal, Maryam, Hamza, Aseefa and the usual rinse and repeat??

 

[Berke2]

Please suggest an alternative?

I'll step up and carry the burden of PM. Just gimme the votes boys!

 

[Berke2]

No state institution is being held responsible, buck is being passed around as usual.

CCPO Lahore, makes irresponsible, callous statements, apologizes a week later, no big deal, just another day in Paradise.

As to pre-election promises, and statements, IK is keeping up the traditions of politicians alive, i.e. hypocrisy

Some politicians are corrupt, some grossly incompetent, either way, public is screwed.

Another feather in the myth of "Riyasat e Madina," is that death penalty for rapists would upset the EU:

Khan said he believed the culprits should be hanged publicly, but added that officials had informed him that such an act could endanger a preferential trade status given to Pakistan by the European Union (EU)

It's not a good thing to be financially dependent on the west. Insha'Allah the government finds a way out of this hole soon.

They could simply ignore the EU and do it anyway. That would require iron will from the government and patience from the average pakistani (they should be ready for western responses and not throw our leaders under the bus).

 

[baqai]

Alternate? you think we are out of good people? we are out of people who are not hypocrites? we are out of people who are Justice Wajihuddin, Hakim Saeed, Dr Adeeb Rizvi, Dr Abdul Bari, Edhi Sahab and others?

I want someone who is not a freaking lying lil bitch, man of his words and not a hypocrite.

 

[Scorpio]

 

[Khafee]

Top 3 threats to democracy in Pakistan:

 

[Scorpio]

Belo billwal reaction after sawap of parches ...for diesel... must watch

 

[Gripen9]

Belo billwal reaction after sawap of parches ...for diesel... must watch

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priceless

 

[Khafee]

2 MQM workers sentenced to death for role in Baldia factory fire​

September 22, 2020

Two MQM workers were sentenced to death, four to life imprisonment, and four were acquitted by an anti-terrorism court in Karachi on Tuesday in the Baldia factory fire case.

Abdul Rehman alias 'Bhola' and Muhammad Zubair alias 'Chariya' were both given the death penalty, as well as life imprisonment, for their key role in the factory fire, while Shahrukh Latif, Fazal Ahmed, Arshad Mehmood and Ali Mohammad were jailed for life for facilitating the crime.

Other MQM workers — Abdul Sattar Rauf Siddiqui, Adeeb Khanum,and Ali Hasan Qadri — were among those acquitted for a lack of evidence.

Siddiqui, at the time of the incident, was commerce and industries minister.

In September 2012, what came to be known as Pakistan's deadliest industrial blaze, a fire devoured more than 260 lives at a factory situated in Karachi's Baldia Town. Investigations led to revelations that the factory was deliberately set ablaze over non-payment of Rs250 million in protection money.

During the hearings, the prosecution told the court that 263 people were killed in the incident, of which 23, despite the passage of eight years, have not been identified.

It said that there had been a total of 186 hearings held in the case during which 400 witnesses were presented.

The factory owners provided testimony via video link from Dubai. They testified to MQM's demand of Rs250 million in extortion money.

Arshad Bhaila, one of the owners of the factory, said that MQM men had asked him to pay Rs250 million or a 50% share in profits. He said he had been willing to pay Rs10 million.

Rehman, the prime accused, had admitted that he deliberately set ablaze the Ali Enterprise factory on the instructions of MQM leader Hammad Siddiqui.

Bhola had also disclosed that the MQM leader gave him instructions to set fire to the factory. He had claimed that the intent behind the arson attack was only to intimidate the owners of Ali Enterprise; he didn’t anticipate that his act would result in the loss of lives.

Independent opinions suggest that regardless of the cause of the fire, casualties occurred because the factory lacked the basic occupational health and safety standards, while the building design was also flawed.

According to London-based research group Forensic Architecture, which conducted an analysis of the fire using computer simulation, inadequate safety measures at the factory had led to the catastrophic death toll.

The case is based on the findings of the joint investigation team’s report, which states that the incident was that of arson, and that the scene was compromised because of the fire rescue activities and the time-lapse.

The report also disapproved of the previous investigations’ claims of holding an electrical short circuit responsible for the fire incident at the Baldia garments factory.

Judgement Details:

'JIT's decision to not name factory owners in charge-sheet'
The investigation officer in the case, SSP Sajid Saduzai, in a briefing to the media, said that it had been the probing authorities' goal to restore the public's confidence in the country's law enforcement agencies.

"We tried our best to see to it that a verdict based on justice and fairness is issued," he said.

The SSP said that the decision to not nominate any factory owner in the case was taken by the joint investigation team (JIT).

"Police could not have decided in this matter independently," he explained.

He said that the owners had been named among the affected partees in the JIT report.

"There is a difference between JIT and legal procedures," said the investigating officer.
"Our aim was to name and punish the real culprits," he added.

MQM-P distances itself from crime​

Following the verdict, a statement was issued by MQM-P's Faisal Subzwari saying that Rauf Siddiqui's acquittal "is proof of the fact that MQM had no association with the case".

He said the party sympathises with the heirs of the victims who had to wait eight years for the verdict to be announced.
"We hope that the courts ensure the speedy delivery of justice to all the victims of the tragedy.
"We would also like to make clear that supporting any anti-social, lawbreaking individuals was never a policy of the MQM-P and never will be," Subzwari added.

'We were trapped inside'
"People started screaming for their lives,” the then-20-year-old Mohammad Asif had said as he described the incident. "Everyone came to the window. I jumped from the third floor.”

Employee Mohammad Pervez had said at the time the factory owners "were more concerned with safeguarding the garments in the factory than the workers” and that "a lot of people would have been saved" had there been no metal grilles on the windows.

Another worker, Liaqat Hussain, then 29, had said the blaze engulfed the entire factory "within two minutes".
“The gate was closed. There was no access to get out, we were trapped inside,” Hussain had said.

The massive fire was initially reported to have been caused by a short circuit.

 

[Berke2]

They should've outright banned MQM totally instead of letting an offshoot of it survive. I really dislike how bad parties or bad people in Pakistan just keep on coming back for round 2 3 4 etc... There little actual consequences for their actions. They just hop parties to carry on with more corruption or wait for their turn for power again.

 

[Khafee]

Coronavirus: GCC travellers to Pakistan must take PCR test​

September 28, 2020 at 06.23 am

Additionally, travellers have to download the PassTrack mobile app and also undergo a health screening upon arrival at Pakistani airports.​

Travellers from the UAE and other Gulf countries - except Saudi Arabia - to Pakistan will need a negative Covid-19 test result from October 5. Passengers will need to take the test within 96 hours of the travel date. Those aged less than 12 years, travellers with special needs and high-level international delegations are exempt from this requirement.

International travellers coming to Pakistan (effective 5th Oct 2020) will be required to:
1. Download the "Pass Track App" and fill out info
2. Have a negative COVID-19 RT-PCR test (travelers from some countries are exempt from this).

More info: COVID-19 Health Advisory Platform by Ministry of National Health Services Regulations and Coordination
- Faisal Sultan (@fslsltn) September 25, 2020

Additionally, travellers have to download the PassTrack mobile app and also undergo a health screening upon arrival at Pakistani airports. Travel information needs to be submitted via the app 48 hours before arrival in Pakistan. Passengers will need to submit this information for airlines to issue their boarding passes. Airline crew members also need to submit this information.

The Pakistani government has specified two categories for countries of origin. These lists will be reviewed and updated every fortnight.

Islamabad has exempted travellers from 38 countries from the need to have a negative Covid-19 test. Some of the major countries are Australia, Canada, China, Germany, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Norway, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Thailand and Turkey, among others.

Safety protocols
The government has specified some safety protocols for travellers. Cabin crew members are required to provide hand sanitisers every hour during the flight to each passenger. All passengers are required to wear face masks throughout the duration of the flight except during meal times. The masks shall be provided by the airline at check-in counters of the airport if the passengers do not have their own.

Under the new guidelines, no meet and greet shall be allowed at the airport and drivers shall stay inside the vehicle in the parking lot.
Mohammed Aslam, a UAE resident for over five years, said this was on the expected lines because most of the countries around the world demand negative Covid-19 test from foreign travellers.
"It was long due because many countries have already implemented this rule. And this will be an additional burden on overseas Pakistanis, but this is the new normal," said Aslam.

Abul Hassan, a long-time UAE resident, said though this decision is a good precautionary measure to stop the spread of the coronavirus in Pakistan, it will be a "financial burden".

"Most of the people returning to Pakistan are labourers or those who have lost jobs, so this will be an extra burden on them. The Pakistan government has exempted several countries from the coronavirus test condition and the UAE deserves to be on that list. The UAE is among the few countries which has contained the pandemic well. I hope Pakistan authorities will consider to put the UAE in the list of exempted countries," he said.

 

[Khafee]

"Most of the people returning to Pakistan are labourers or those who have lost jobs, so this will be an extra burden on them. The Pakistan government has exempted several countries from the coronavirus test condition and the UAE deserves to be on that list. The UAE is among the few countries which has contained the pandemic well. I hope Pakistan authorities will consider to put the UAE in the list of exempted countries," he said.

GoP needs to re-visit this decision, People who have lost their jobs, or whose visas are expiring, have to exit under all circumstances. THIS creates major issues for them.

In the UAE, all visitors are PCR tested at the arrival airport, and quarantined until the result is announced. This would be a good step for GoP to follow, instead of harresing its own citizens.

 

[Khafee]

PM Imran Khan inaugurates UAE-funded Sheikh Zayed Road​

Agencies/Mohmand
September 28, 2020

Prime Minister Imran Khan, Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa and UAE Ambassador Hamad Obaid Ibrahim Al Zaabi after the inauguration of the Sheikh Zayed Road in Mohmand.(APP) ​

The 40.69km long road, built at a cost of Rs3.705 billion, was entirely funded by the UAE​

Pakistan's Prime Minister Imran Khan on Monday inaugurated the Sheikh Zayed Road in Mohmand tribal district of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. The road was built with funding from the United Arab Emirates Pakistan Assistance Programme (UAE-PAP).

PM Khan said the project would facilitate a large number of people and provide transportation, trade and employment opportunities to the people of Mohmand.

It will give them easy access to the provincial capital Peshawar and other districts.

He said: "The project in Mohmand is a gift to the people of the region built in collaboration with the UAE Government."
The 40.69km long Sheikh Zayed Road was built at a cost of Rs3.705 billion, entirely funded by the UAE.

UAE Ambassador to Pakistan Hamad Obaid Ibrahim Al Zaabi; Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa; Federal Minster for Communication Murad Saeed; Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Pir Noorul Haq Qadari and other officials were present on the occasion.

 

[Khafee]

Motorway rape occurred because victim travelled 'late night without husband’s permission', CCPO tells Senate panel​

28 Sep 2020
Naveed Siddiqui

Lahore Capital City Police Officer Umar Sheikh

The Senate human rights panel was irked on Monday during a briefing on the Lahore-Sialkot motorway gang-rape case provided by Lahore Capital City Police Officer Umar Sheikh, who once again seemed to fault the victim for the incident. The members also took exception to the "contradictory" police findings, which they observed had created "doubts and suspicions" about the investigation.

Earlier this month, a woman was gang-raped on the Lahore-Sialkot motorway in front of her children while she was waiting for help after calling the motorway police's helpline 130 when her car developed a fault.

On Monday, Sheikh was summoned by the committee to provide a briefing on the progress of the case that sparked outrage across the country and also exposed the lack of security on a key route.

During the hearing, the CCPO was berated by the panel for expressing his "presumption" that the incident took place because the victim "was travelling late at night without her husband's permission". Members of the committee asked him if the victim had said this in her statement at which Sheikh said that it was his assumption.

When the committee reprimanded him for giving his "personal opinions" instead of stating facts of the case, Sheikh backtracked and said that "he had been told that the victim had left late at night because she had to talk to her husband on video call".

The committee members said that providing security to citizens was the job of the State, regardless of the time and reason behind travelling.
Sheikh informed the committee that the police had identified the culprits within 72 hours through geofencing, DNA testing, fingerprints and foot tracking technology. He said that one of the suspects, Shafqat Ali alias Bagga, was under arrest while the main suspect Babar Malik was absconding. Committee member Ainee Marri pointed out that the main suspect's name was Abid Ali, but Sheikh had repeatedly referred to him as Babar Malik.

"Is the main suspect [named] Abid or Babar? You are investigating this case and you don't know the name of the main suspect," she said.
Sheikh said that if the victim had called 15, police would have arrived in time. He said that a police team arrived at the scene in 28 minutes. The committee said that in a previous meeting, the panel was told that the police had arrived on the scene in six minutes, adding that police statements were "contradictory" and were creating "doubts" about the investigation.

Members of the panel told the CCPO not to "misguide" the committee.
"Even the US' police cannot reach the site in six minutes, how can we?" Sheikh responded.

CCPO Sheikh then apologised to the committee and said that a joint session should be summoned so he can apologise to all lawmakers at once.
This is not the first time that the CCPO has given controversial statements regarding the case. Earlier, he had invited criticism when he pontificated that the victim had failed to take due precautions before setting off for her journey.

According to the Lahore police chief’s logic, the woman could have avoided being at the wrong place at the wrong time. He said she should have taken the more populated GT Road to Gujranwala instead of going via motorway, and that she ought to have checked how much fuel her car had before setting off.

Later, in another conversation with journalists, he had said that the victim was travelling with her children at a late hour because she "thought it was France".