Syrian Revolution News & Discussions

[Scorpion]

What a hypocrite world we live in. People of Syria are being slaughtered on a daily basis and no one seems to care. While a few people died in several countries as a result of terror attacks and we see the whole world jumping the gun. Im truly sick and disgusted.

 

[Falcon29]

Rebels plus Nusra Front begin offensive in Tel El Eis in Aleppo with some reinforcements and suicide bombings:

It is reported that the Syrian forces lost the town, but are conducting counteroffensive.

 

[Lieutenant]

Rebels plus Nusra Front begin offensive in Tel El Eis in Aleppo with some reinforcements and suicide bombings:

It is reported that the Syrian forces lost the town, but are conducting counteroffensive.

Did the Nusrah front back up from allying with Al-Qaeda?

 

[Falcon29]

Did the Nusrah front back up from allying with Al-Qaeda?

I'm not sure, although I don't see the connection. They don't same to care much about that. Only ISIS represents the Islamic State value thing.

 

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[Scorpion]

Did the Nusrah front back up from allying with Al-Qaeda?

No they still allied to AQ.

 

[Falcon29]

Syrian army took back Qaryataan from ISIS(Using new Russian artillery weapon):

 

[Falcon29]

Obama Nixed CIA Plan That Could Have Stopped ISIS: Officials

The CIA in 2012 proposed a detailed covert action plan designed to remove Syrian President Bashar Assad from power, but President Obama declined to approve it, current and former U.S. officials tell NBC News.

It's long been known that then-CIA Director David Petraeus recommended a program to secretly arm and train moderate Syrian rebels in 2012 to pressure Assad. But a book to be published Tuesday by a former CIA operative goes further, revealing that senior CIA officials were pushing a multi-tiered plan to engineer the dictator's ouster. Former American officials involved in the discussions confirmed that to NBC News.

In an exclusive television interview with NBC News, the former officer, Doug Laux, describes spending a year in the Middle East meeting with Syrian rebels and intelligence officers from various partner countries. Laux, who spoke some Arabic, was the eyes and ears on the ground for the CIA's Syria task force, he says.

Laux, an Indiana native who joined the CIA in 2005 at age 23, says he wrote an "ops plan" that included all the elements he believed were necessary to remove Assad. He was not allowed to describe the plan, but he writes that his program "had gained traction" in Washington. His boss, the head of the Syria task force, regularly briefed members of the Congressional intelligence committees on what Laux was seeing, hearing and suggesting.

A former senior intelligence official said Laux's ideas—many of them shared by other members of the CIA's Syrian task force--were heavily represented in the plan that was ultimately presented to Obama.

But the president, who must approve all covert action, never gave the green light. The White House and the CIA declined to comment.

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Obama Nixed CIA Plan That Could Have Stopped ISIS: Officials - NBC News

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'Stop ISIS'? Really? By overthrowing a government? So be straightforward and announce it as a plan to overthrow the government of Syria and not a plan to 'stop ISIS'. You let ISIS grow in Syria to provide a scenario to topple Assad. ISIS is used as beneficiary by all sides to advance their real political agenda.

 

[UAE]

Syrian army took back Qaryataan from ISIS(Using new Russian artillery weapon):

Let them finish each other.

 

[Falcon29]

Let them finish each other.

Syrian Army should just win, Syrian demonstrations were corrupted from the very beginning. The opposition factions coordinated with the CIA. Once they did that, they kissed their chances goodbye. The opposition was naive, CIA wanted to make them temporary usable asset that dries out. This affected all operational and political initiatives of opposition. It took them back decades, they made costly mistakes that cost them dearly. There's no going back now.

 

[UAE]

Syrian Army should just win, Syrian demonstrations were corrupted from the very beginning. The opposition factions coordinated with the CIA. Once they did that, they kissed their chances goodbye. The opposition was naive, CIA wanted to make them temporary usable asset that dries out. This affected all operational and political initiatives of opposition. It took them back decades, they made costly mistakes that cost them dearly. There's no going back now.

The Arab Spring resulted to nothing but destruction of the Arab world. Wether in Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt or Yemen. Look at all these countries now are nothing but failed states. Having said that, it doesn't mean that we see people getting slaughtered and we remain salient. If you go back in time to the beginning of the Syrian uprising you will come to know that those people who walked the street were confronted with fire. It was after six months that they responded in same fashion.

 

[Falcon29]

The Arab Spring resulted to nothing but destruction of the Arab world. Wether in Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt or Yemen. Look at all these countries now are nothing but failed states. Having said that, it doesn't mean that we see people getting slaughtered and we remain salient. If you go back in time to the beginning of the Syrian uprising you will come to know that those people who walked the street were confronted with fire. It was after six months that they responded in same fashion.

I agree we can't ignore humanitarian situation, but if we want reformed government, we must implement steps at a paced rate that the whole peoples stand behind. The problem is, the power structure in the Arab world is very clan-like. Most tribes or families want to hold unto power. And if that's the case, then they should deliver, which in some cases they do. But, on other hand they have counterproductive influence elsewhere which promotes clan-like dictatorial government. For Assad's case, I thought Syria wasn't in bad shape prior to the conflict, besides the sanctions. His government was very brutal with opposition. Probably more than most, but not much worse in some cases. The issue in Syria was obviously some people saw one sect having too much power. Now if they agreed to shared power structure, that would be fine. If we are to solve this issue through armed means, it can become very dangerous sectarian war. Which it has become.

And the opposition in Syria are getting mixed messages, they don't know what to proceed with at this point. They can't tell if Arab nations are encouraging them to remains steadfast or end the revolt. Which is the problem I have here, I prefer cease fire over a conflict that nobody knows what it is being fought for. Syria is now Russia's playground, Yemen is Saudi playground, Iraq is Iraq. I don't see how these realities can shift at this point to five years from now. So we should just settle with the situation and give people peace and security. Iraq used to be a beautiful country, it has beautiful people, if we can get rid of the religious tension, it will be a prosperous Arab nation to visit.

 

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