JF-17 related news.

[Muhammad Omar]

The heavier the payoad, the higher the stress on the air frame, and subsequently higher the airframe fatigue. In peace time, not really necessary.

Seondly, the missiles are also subjected to stresses, and humidity level changes.

Well the one which are ready for the battle are also carrying 2 SD10 under their wings.. Specially when the thing were hot last year with India JF17 were still patrolling with 2 SD10 each. See the configuration 2 x PL15E 2x SD10 and 2x800 liter drop tanks

This configuration would've been deadly
2x PL-15E
4x SD10
800 liter drop tank

I know the configuration is subjected to the type of mission being carried out and just patrolling does not need an extra pair of SD10 but just wondering never seen PAF using Dual racks for SD10 in all these years

Even on the static display PAF should promote JF17 with dual racks carrying SD10 (Mockup missiles) to gather more interest from the buyers.. Look at this display at Zuhai Air Show 2018 having nice 4xSD10 would surely bring more attention...

 

[Khafee]

Well the one which are ready for the battle are also carrying 2 SD10 under their wings.. Specially when the thing were hot last year with India JF17 were still patrolling with 2 SD10 each. See the configuration 2 x PL15E 2x SD10 and 2x800 liter drop tanks

This configuration would've been deadly
2x PL-15E
4x SD10
800 liter drop tank

NOT PL-15E but PL-5E.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

NOT PL-15E but PL-5E.
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Yes my mistake PL-5E

 

[MIRauf]

If PAC / CAC does it well, they get done developing a twin launcher like the F-15s or the Grippen C/D/NG then JF-17 could carry PL-15E and PL-5E / PL-10E in tandem on the outer pylon. If rumor of wing tip strengthening are correct then it could carry 2 SD-10 on wingtips.

so something like

SD-10 , PL-15E--PL-5E/10E , Fuel-Tank , ECM-Pod , Center-Fuel-Tank , Fuel-tank , PL-5E/10E--PL-15E , SD-10

 

[TomCat]

If PAC / CAC does it well, they get done

SD-10 , PL-15E--PL-5E/10E , Fuel-Tank , ECM-Pod , Center-Fuel-Tank , Fuel-tank , PL-5E/10E--PL-15E , SD-10

Isn’t this the side hp that Air Marshal in a recent 27Feb program indicated of ?

 

[Safri167]

If PAC / CAC does it well, they get done developing a twin launcher like the F-15s or the Grippen C/D/NG then JF-17 could carry PL-15E and PL-5E / PL-10E in tandem on the outer pylon. If rumor of wing tip strengthening are correct then it could carry 2 SD-10 on wingtips.

so something like

SD-10 , PL-15E--PL-5E/10E , Fuel-Tank , ECM-Pod , Center-Fuel-Tank , Fuel-tank , PL-5E/10E--PL-15E , SD-10

can you please mention the differences between ,
PL5E, PL10E, SD10, PL15?
also do we have PL10E? with JF17?

 

[TomCat]

can you please mention the differences between ,
PL5E, PL10E, SD10, PL15?
also do we have PL10E? with JF17?

PL-5E is the standard WVR missile PAF uses for it’s Chinese origin Planes.

PL-10E is the HOBS capable Chinese WVR missile with a seeker attached to the head. Not confirmed to be in use in PAF, neither any rumors, Although, There have been rumors of possible interest in Denel’s A-Darter (similar category missile). I believe we will know soon about it once we get to know about Block 3’s HMDS.

SD-10 is the standard BVR missile PAF uses with thunders since ever. They are Chinese counter part to AIM-120C

PL-15 is the Long range Chinese BVR Missile which PAF might use on Block 3 and maybe other fighters as well. PL-15 would make the Entire IAF piss in pants while attempting takeoffs even with their “Meteor/Rafales”.

 

[Safri167]

PL-5E is the standard WVR missile PAF uses for it’s Chinese origin Planes.

PL-10E is the HOBS capable Chinese WVR missile with a seeker attached to the head. Not confirmed to be in use in PAF, neither any rumors, Although, There have been rumors of possible interest in Denel’s A-Darter (similar category missile). I believe we will know soon about it once we get to know about Block 3’s HMDS.

SD-10 is the standard BVR missile PAF uses with thunders since ever. They are Chinese counter part to AIM-120C

PL-15 is the Long range Chinese BVR Missile which PAF might use on Block 3 and maybe other fighters as well. PL-15 would make the Entire IAF piss in pants while attempting takeoffs even with their “Meteor/Rafales”.

thank you .
Which one is infrared homing?
Do PL10E, A darter and Mica, fall in same category?
J10 and J15 would be using PL10E?

 

[MIRauf]

Isn’t this the side hp that Air Marshal in a recent 27Feb program indicated of ?

You are correct, he did. It's the Wingtip Hard Point, likely streghtened for AAM or ECM Pods. My layout was for Block-III, I should have clarified / stated.

CAC has done a good job for dual rack for the bombs, the AAM dual launcher should be similar, the current one looks like a hack job just as the hinges on the B model.

 

[Khafee]

You are correct, he did. It's the Wingtip Hard Point, likely streghtened for AAM or ECM Pods. My layout was for Block-III, I should have clarified / stated.

CAC has done a good job for dual rack for the bombs, the AAM dual launcher should be similar, the current one looks like a hack job just as the hinges on the B model.

Seriously disappointed by this. RCS 101 just flew out of the window.

 

[MIRauf]

thank you .
Which one is infrared homing?
Do PL10E, A darter and Mica, fall in same category?
J10 and J15 would be using PL10E?

PL-10E was stated to be on offer, my layout was for illustration purposes, the WVR could be any that PAF has selected ( PL-5, PL-10, A-Darter, ) Mica-IR highly unlikely as french may not allow it. These are IR Homing, while MICA-RF is radar guided.

When you say that J-10/15 will carry PL-10E, I take it that since it's E variant that you mean PAF, again if PAF opts for it then yes.

 

[MIRauf]

Seriously disappointed by this. RCS 101 just flew out of the window.

Total bummer layout, it seems PAC went to JL-9 team instead of L-15 team for canopy design / layout.

 

[Safri167]

PL-10E was stated to be on offer, my layout was for illustration purposes, the WVR could be any that PAF has selected ( PL-5, PL-10, A-Darter, ) Mica-IR highly unlikely as french may not allow it. These are IR Homing, while MICA-RF is radar guided.

When you say that J-10/15 will carry PL-10E, I take it that since it's E variant that you mean PAF, again if PAF opts for it then yes.

I was asking in the context that J10 and J15 would be using HMD/S, so an HOBS missile, most likely PL10E, as it is Chinese origin, already integrated with these birds?
Beside PL10E would have greater range than PL5E?

 

[TomCat]

Seriously disappointed by this. RCS 101 just flew out of the window.

Total bummer layout, it seems PAC went to JL-9 team instead of L-15 team for canopy design / layout.

I think due to the “Overall Hack job of Dual Seater”, Place for fuel, has been allocated behind cockpit hence why we didn’t see an upward opening, Hydraulic system for Canopy.

They didn’t plan for dual seater since the start

 

[TomCat]

You are correct, he did. It's the Wingtip Hard Point, likely streghtened for AAM or ECM Pods. My layout was for Block-III, I should have clarified / stated.

CAC has done a good job for dual rack for the bombs, the AAM dual launcher should be similar, the current one looks like a hack job just as the hinges on the B model.

No, Not talking about the wingtip, Check your layout again, I marked the “ECM pod” Red, as the positioning as per your theory is neither on the centre or the third hp rather the New upcoming cheek hp