Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[Khafee]

Alan is saying no V upgrade for PAF F 16 but he is not replying about the possible purchase of block 70/72.

he said no V upgrade but he dis not said no new blocks.

Any more chawals from you, or are you done for the day?

 

[MIRauf]

$ 2 billions upmost with 200-250 AIM 120 Ds included. With this no other platform required atleast for next few years other than popping up 8-10 JF17s block 3 every year. A perfect reply for Indian Rafale threat.

Actually to get the same results as Feb 27, rest of the fleet will need to be brought up to V standard, at least majority of it to V standard. PAF must have studied the toll it took on air-frames during those 2 to 3 months of constant CAP.

 

[Salza]

Actually to get the same results as Feb 27, rest of the fleet will need to be brought up to V standard, at least majority of it to V standard. PAF must have studied the toll it took on air-frames during those 2 to 3 months of constant CAP.

Yeah but last year after PM visit, US did cleared Pakistani F16s upgrade program if you remember so I believe our F16s are still up to the mark if not equal to V standards.

Btw I keep stressing about AIM 120 Ds all the time as well because it will outgunned any BVR missile in Indian inventory even meteor. Now imagine, thunders equipped with PL15s and F16s with AIM 120 D. IAF pilots will be pissing in their cockpits if Chaiwala orders them to take on PAF.

@Khafee Talking about PL15s , do we already have them or Chinese are still testing them ?

 

[MIRauf]

Yeah but last year after PM visit, US did cleared Pakistani F16s upgrade program if you remember so I believe our F16s are still up to the mark if not equal to V standards.

Btw I keep stressing about AIM 120 Ds all the time as well because it will outgunned any BVR missile in Indian inventory even meteor. Now imagine, thunders equipped with PL15s and F16s with AIM 120 D. IAF pilots will be pissing in their cockpits if Chaiwala orders them to take on PAF.

@Khafee Talking about PL15s , do we already have them or Chinese are still testing them ?

Agree with your points about AAMs, however not sure if PAF F-16s have received the MLU for V standard or are up that standard.

 

[Salza]

Agree with your points about AAMs, however not sure if PAF F-16s have received the MLU for V standard or are up that standard.

I think in V, major upgrade is AESA radar. We already have sniper pods in all block 52s and some of the MLUed F16s. I think our MLU F16s covers most of the V stuff.

 

[Salza]

Agree with your points about AAMs, however not sure if PAF F-16s have received the MLU for V standard or are up that standard.

One more point, Indian raptor of the east, super duper Su30s were shown the door by MLUed F16s that day. We even didn't used our block 52s so to me their upgrade status are of high standards if not V.

 

[TomCat]

When Pakistanis keep electing idiots, and ruining their own economy, easy to blame everyone else.

So true,
Once upon a time,
I too was a traveller of that boat which blamed GCC, But @Mastankhan has opened my eyes, And I understood that the fault is within rather we start blaming the arabs after all they have done

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

@Khafee kia scene bhai posted on PDF by Hodor, my head is spinning and its not that time of the month

I beg your pardon

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

So true,
Once upon a time,
I too was a traveller of that boat which blamed GCC, But @Mastankhan has opened my eyes, And I understood that the fault is within rather we start blaming the arabs after all they have done

Its usually always within. The country is in this state because of it's people. The people are to blame. They treat pakistan like a hotel where they dont care of the end result because they will go back home. This is there home and there is no place on earth where they will feel at home after Pakistan.

As long as this isnt taught to the children and jahils nothing can be done.

 

[Armchair]

he said no V upgrade but he dis not said no new blocks.

True, but it is hard to imagine one without the other.

 

[Ghessan]

Neither Alan Warnes, nor LM would know of a transfer of jets from one country to another. So, the hope still stands.

he is pointing towards V upgrade for existing fleet probably and not transfer of jets. but soon everybody will see IA.

 

[Safri167]

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[Safri167]

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[Armchair]

he is pointing towards V upgrade for existing fleet probably and not transfer of jets. but soon everybody will see IA.

Point is, it is not possible to get V upgrad without LM not knowing about it (Tweet). Secondly, it is not possible for Pak to get V upgrade or new birds without DSCA notification. Only possibility is through transfer of jets from third countries (like Egypt or Jordan or UAE or whoever).

 

[Armchair]

Another potential source of F-16s: Legacy U.S. Air Force Fighters, Bombers Are on the Chopping Block

CUPID and CCIP USAF aircraft are kind of upgraded F-16s that are slowly being retired from USAF as F-35s take over the fleet.