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FO rejects reports of agreement regarding use of Pakistan's airspace by US
October 23, 2021
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Foreign Office has rejected reports of an agreement regarding the use of Pakistan's airspace by the US to conduct military and intelligence operations in Afghanistan.

Responding to the queries of the media persons, Foreign Office spokesperson Asim Iftikhar categorically stated that no such understanding is in place.

He, however, said Pakistan and the United States have longstanding cooperation on regional security and counter terrorism and the two sides remain engaged in regular consultations.
 

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PM Imran arrives in Madina to pay respect at Roza-e-Rasool (PBUH)
October 23, 2021
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Prime Minister Imran Khan arrived at Madinah Munawara along with delegation on a three day official visit to Saudi Arabia.

The Prime Minister was received by Deputy Governor of Madinah Prince Saud bin Khalid Al-Faisal at the airport.

He will proceed for Ziarat at Masjid Al Nabawi.

The Prime Minister will attend the launch ceremony of “Middle East Green Initiative Summit”, being held in Saudi capital, Riyadh.

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Earlier, Prime Minister Imran Khan has arrived in Saudi Arabia on a three-day visit to attend the inaugural ceremony of the “Middle East Green Initiative Summit” being held in Riyadh.

At the Summit, the Prime Minister will share his perspective on the challenges faced by developing countries due to climate change.

He will also highlight Pakistan’s experience of launching nature-based solutions to address the environmental challenges including 10 Billion Tree Tsunami.

The first of their kind in the Middle East Region, “Green Saudi Arabia” and “Green Middle East” initiatives have been launched by the Crown Prince aimed at protecting the nature and planet.

Besides meeting the Saudi leadership, the Prime Minister will also participate in an event on the promotion of investment in Pakistan and interact with leading investors and businessmen from Saudi Arabia and Pakistani diaspora.
 

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PM thanks Saudi crown prince for $3bn deposit

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Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday expressed gratitude to Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz for extending financial support to Pakistan.

The prime minister in particular mentioned the $3 billion deposit with the State Bank of Pakistan and the $1.2 billion financing of the refined petroleum products. “I want to thank HRH Prince Mohammad bin Salman for supporting Pakistan with $3 bln as deposit in Pak’s central bank & financing refined petroleum product with $1.2 bln,” he wrote on his twitter handle. Imran Khan said the Kingdom of Saudi Arbia had always helped Pakistan in difficult times. “KSA has always been there for Pak in our difficult times including now when world confronts rising commodity prices,” he said.

The two leaders had met this week in Saudi Arabia on the sidelines of Middle East Green Initiative summit on Climate Change. A day earlier, the Saudi government announced a deposit of US $3 billion with the State Bank of Pakistan besides a US $1.2 billion deferred oil facility to Pakistan to help its balance of payment issues, an official announcement said.

According to the Saudi Press Agency (SPA), the Saudi Fund for Development in a “generous gesture” announced a deposit of US $3 billion with the State Bank of Pakistan on Tuesday to help the government support its foreign currency reserves and counter the impact of the Corona pandemic. The SPA reported that the deposit was in addition to an oil deferred payment facility of US $1.2 billion for petroleum products, during the year. The SPA said that the gesture reflected the Saudi Kingdom’s continued position in supporting the economy of Pakistan. The announcement would help ease pressure on Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves, due to the recent sharp hike in global commodity prices.
 

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Pakistan needs to unapologetically tell its narrative to the world, says NSA Moeed Yusuf

Published October 28, 2021 - Updated about 3 hours ago

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National Security Adviser Moeed Yusuf speaking at a seminar in Islamabad. — DawnNewsTV

National Security Adviser (NSA) Moeed Yusuf on Thursday said that Pakistan needed to "unapologetically" share its narrative with the world.
Speaking at a seminar in Islamabad on national narratives, Yusuf outlined three words that encapsulated his approach to narratives: proactive, unapologetic and pragmatic.

"Virtually every time we communicate, these three principles can get us anywhere we want to go. There is no reason for Pakistan to be shy because we have nothing to hide.

"The fact of the matter is that we have absorbed Western narratives of Pakistan to the point that even internally, there is a debate on whether Pakistan's narrative is the correct one," he said.

Yusuf said this was "mindboggling" for him since according to him, Pakistan had a "real story" to tell based on what the country was doing and stood for. "There is absolutely no reason to be apologetic about it," he added.

The NSA outlined his experience when he came into government and elaborated on what he had found to be different, saying that for the first time he "realised that Pakistan has a real positive story to tell the world".

"We actually have a story that is compelling, logical [and] true, which we must put out to the world for them to understand who we are and what we stand for."

Outlining the problems he had identified, Yusuf said the most "important one ... which bothered me the most and continues to" was a supposed element in Pakistan's culture of communication — more internationally than domestically — of being "shy in presenting our view unapologetically".

He questioned that when Pakistan had a story to tell and knew how to tell it, then why wasn't this conversation being done "far more unapologetically — not emotively — to clarify that Pakistan is going to do XYZ because it's in our strategic interests".

Explaining the other problems, Yusuf said Pakistan was lagging behind other countries in rapid strategic communication using modern platforms and mediums such as social media.

"We were living in the world — and to some extent maybe even today — of public relations, press releases [and] responding to things at our own time. The world has moved on."

Another problem, according to him, was "speaking our language to others and expecting them to understand what we're saying". Yusuf said the same narratives and talking points couldn't be used in front of every audience on every occasion.

Apart from just the content, he added that it also mattered who was delivering the message and how they were delivering it.

The NSA also questioned why Pakistanis weren't being heard more and why more people were not presenting their point of view through writing or public appearances.

"How many Pakistanis who understand Pakistan are in think tanks in key capitals?" he asked.

He said people with an understanding of the country's internal context were needed instead of an outsider's perspective.

'One national narrative'

The NSA also elaborated on his perspective of a national narrative, saying that he didn't believe in striving towards a singular narrative.
"I think there are multiple narratives that have to come together to create a whole which is what Pakistan stands for as a country and as a nation. Narratives always have to reflect reality."

He said there was a difference between how Pakistan and other countries — India in particular — approached narrative building.
"Our model is to project our rightful reality to the world. Their model is to create a whole global network of fake news to malign others," Yusuf said, referring to the EU DisinfoLab report that uncovered a vast network of coordinated fake local media outlets in 65 countries serving Indian interests, as well as multiple dubious think tanks and NGOs.

"When you show planes flying over the UK as planes belonging to Pakistan flying in Panjshir then you will be debunked and humiliated for that."

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Policy prerequisites for creating narratives

The NSA said certain prerequisites were needed for creating narratives. One of them was having a "whole-of-government-coordinated-approach".

"You can't have narratives in which you are inherently contradictory about what you're telling the world," he explained, adding that better coordination would mean better results.

Yusuf also said that national narratives which didn't have public support could not be achieved. He said national dialogue was required on the following key areas:

  • Character as an Islamic country
  • Unity in diversity
  • Human welfare for everyone
  • Pakistan's democratic and federal nature
  • Pakistan's stance for peace within and in its neighbourhood

"A charter of economy, national security and identity — these three national dialogues are necessary ... to bring this public buy-in to our national narratives."

Yusuf reiterated that Pakistan needed to convince itself of its story that the world has to hear. These stories included sacrifices made by Pakistan, losses borne which were not of the country's making and Pakistan's "unique" utility to the world as a "nuclear power, geoeconomic location and trade and transit hub", he added.

"We just need to make sure we are convinced of our own strengths," the NSA stressed.

Yusuf said that over time "every critique would be defeated because [...] there is not a single thing that Pakistan should not be conveying to the world [and] nothing that we should be apologetic about or hold back on."
 

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PM thanks Saudi crown prince for $3bn deposit

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Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday expressed gratitude to Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz for extending financial support to Pakistan.

The prime minister in particular mentioned the $3 billion deposit with the State Bank of Pakistan and the $1.2 billion financing of the refined petroleum products. “I want to thank HRH Prince Mohammad bin Salman for supporting Pakistan with $3 bln as deposit in Pak’s central bank & financing refined petroleum product with $1.2 bln,” he wrote on his twitter handle. Imran Khan said the Kingdom of Saudi Arbia had always helped Pakistan in difficult times. “KSA has always been there for Pak in our difficult times including now when world confronts rising commodity prices,” he said.

The two leaders had met this week in Saudi Arabia on the sidelines of Middle East Green Initiative summit on Climate Change. A day earlier, the Saudi government announced a deposit of US $3 billion with the State Bank of Pakistan besides a US $1.2 billion deferred oil facility to Pakistan to help its balance of payment issues, an official announcement said.

According to the Saudi Press Agency (SPA), the Saudi Fund for Development in a “generous gesture” announced a deposit of US $3 billion with the State Bank of Pakistan on Tuesday to help the government support its foreign currency reserves and counter the impact of the Corona pandemic. The SPA reported that the deposit was in addition to an oil deferred payment facility of US $1.2 billion for petroleum products, during the year. The SPA said that the gesture reflected the Saudi Kingdom’s continued position in supporting the economy of Pakistan. The announcement would help ease pressure on Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves, due to the recent sharp hike in global commodity prices.
PM thanks Saudi Arabian crown prince for financial help in hard time. Where is pro iranian foreign minister??
 

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Unwarranted confrontation


Our law books either have old laws of colonial times or have no laws to deal with several critical national issues and hence we face various problems while dealing with significant matters. Mostly, we have to refer such matters to the Supreme Court for seeking guidance and interpretation and such impasses have always harmed the country. The nation has recently been witnessing tension on the appointment of Director General Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) resulting in an unwarranted noise on social and mainstream media, both nationally and internationally and has become the talk of the town in the country. The law ministry failed to play its role and to issue a proper handout under the constitutional provision of Protection for the Armed forces, clarifying the situation to have sealed the unnecessary debates in the media and have halted the propaganda. I hope and pray that the issue gets resolved without any further delay and perhaps before this article appears in the newspaper.

It is important for the government to not follow the path of trouble and confrontation which may lead to stress, leading to give rise to controversial matters whereas the constitution gives full protection and immunity from any derogatory discussions to the judiciary and armed forces but it is not implemented in full letter and spirit. I am already on record as having exposed the huge funding from anti-Pak countries and the enemy to tarnish the image of the Pakistan Army in order to destabilise the country. I am worried about this alien interference to destabilise us. It is time for us to rise above politics irrespective of our political affiliations and to create national unity to play our role to steer Pakistan out of the present crisis.

The secondment of the ISI Chief and to other top brass posts i.e. the posts of Lt. General etc. is normal under the Army Act which is the sole discretion of the Army chief and similar postings by the other respective service chiefs.

According to Article 243 of the constitution of Pakistan, the Federal Government shall have control and command of the Armed Forces while the President by subject to law, has the power to raise and maintain the Military, Naval and Air Forces of Pakistan; and shall, on the advice of the Prime Minister, appoint-(a)the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee;(b)the Chief of the Army Staff;(c)the Chief of the Naval Staff; and(d)the Chief of the Air Staff, and shall also determine their salaries and allowances. The above article mentioned in the context of governing the fundamental bodies of our country, the constitution, clearly suggests that there is no mention of DG ISI’s appointment in this section as yet. It is neither amended in the Constitution nor the Army Act by the Federal Government/Parliament.

The ISI came into being after 1952 in the present shape when the Army Act was already promulgated hence, the ISI is not mentioned in the Army Act. According to Section 3 and 9 of the FIA act 1974, the Federal Government shall have the power to appoint the DG FIA as well as other officers of the agency by notification in the Official Gazette, and also to make rules for carrying out the purposes of this Act and there is no set rule for the appointments yet as there is no act of ISI like FIA or IB. Having said that, the power to transfer or post an official in the ISI/Head of the ISI lies with the army chief since 1948 as he has the only authority to send any Lt General on secondment to ISI including other Lt General to other postings and the appointment of any Lt. General can be considered as a secondment to ISI.

All my suggestions may be taken in good faith and should be considered as advice from an elder senior political worker to revisit our acts and some parts of the constitution. This matter needs to be thrashed out legally and let there be an enactment as mutually proposed by GHQ, law ministry and defence ministry and other stakeholders. The appointment of DG ISI is like any secondment to any civil department ordered by the COAS like the secondment of MS to PM or other postings in the civilian setup.
 

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Imran Khan is comparing oil prices with India, while himself is stealing oil from Saudi for free, by exploiting their sentiments for Pakistanis.
 

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Incompetent policies, corruption, lies, and personal agendas.


An economy in a terrible shape, massive amount of debt, failed foreign policy, and corrupt politicians. All four issues have grown in the last three years, contrary to tall claims pre & post election.

This excuse of "what did they inherit", after 3+ yrs in power does not work. Sorry. High time people started becoming Pakistanis instead of political workers.


Nobody is going to live on this planet forever, so if IK dies tomorrow then who? You mean to tell me that if not IK then out of the 230m~ 250m Pakistanis, you dont have ONE HONEST LEADER? Such close minded vision, will always insure that nothing changes.

I'm not shocked by such mindset anymore, just saddened, when educated people follow like blind sheep, and put corrupt political figures before their motherland. No human can be above it.
It's not that there is no honest leaders in such a big population...
...it's the way the system is rigged...and the population for the most part stupid. Have we not witnessed the same goons play musical chairs with the seats of power in Pakistan for decades?
Even if by chance some courageous honest soul(who would be a very rare occurrence in Pakistan to begin with) steps forward...the idiotic "awam" would most likely not elect him/her bcuz they will be playing the same old politics of being "jiyala", "patwari", "youthia", etc. Not too long ago I got in a heated argument at another forum with an idiot from Karachi who voted for a politician from PPPP just bcuz he was "Urdu speaking".

I'm not a die hard fan of any one person...or one party. I just want the country to do better...and the ppl to finally be able to breathe...have a chance at life...have jobs, access to education, security, etc.(all the perks we enjoy living in developed countries)...
...with this in mind...I still think Imran Khan is marginally better than the likes of Zardari, Nawaz, Altaf, etc. He has had his failings...and if someone better comes along...I would be all for that person. However at this time...no such option exists...if anything I'm afraid that the ppl are going to revert back to PMLN or PPPP come next election. If anyone has any better options...I'm all ears.
 

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...it's the way the system is rigged
Just by having 10-15 thousand mafia vote in any constituency, minority mafia can hijack a country. This is Pakistan's democratic system for you!
Iran has been exploiting this loop hole from decades. So basically, It's not the people rather the security agencies who come atop as jack a$$.

Now a days TLP gang is a new example of same old exploitation of Pakistan's democratic system, which in-fact is a sham. considering majority people do not vote for what ever reason. it can range from risk of loosing life in any firing /bombing incident, to having lost trust in system, remember security agencies are part of system. Politicians have lost respect in society, and so does the position of General, all thanks to Bajwa clan, who ruined all.... what was re-built by General Rahil Sharif.

Remaining non aligned rural /urban classes are wooed by false promises and hopes, but that's even field for all parties.
 

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Interesting Analysis
 
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