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Too lazy...and it's 6AM here in Cali. However I have posted something like that above in the "Chill Republic".Start a new thread.
https://world-defense.com/threads/chill-republic.4398/post-64644
Too lazy...and it's 6AM here in Cali. However I have posted something like that above in the "Chill Republic".Start a new thread.
Why would US trust us? They know we have moved to Chinese camp.Lol and I was trying to keep it short...since it's off topic in this thread
That's why I just cut off the economic challenges part and didn't even bother listing anything.
The world is not black and white. If US wanted to be completely anti Pak...they could've done that long ago and would've continued doing so.Why would US trust us? They know we have moved to Chinese camp.
An unstable Afghanistan is in the benefit of US/India nexus.The world is not black and white. If US wanted to be completely anti Pak...they could've done that long ago and would've continued doing so.
After the US exits from Afghanistan...some things very likely to happen are listed below...
- Afghanistan descending into chaos with multiple factions vying for power(which is what happened after USSR's exit and US exit from Iraq).
- Other countries including Iran and Pakistan backing certain factions and trying to get them in power so they will have a government that is more under their control.
- Other countries keeping the militant factions trained and funded to serve as anti state actors(like for example Iran funding Houthis). Or different militias and warlords would band together and fund their operations with the opium that's grown in massive quantities in Afghanistan(like ISIS does with oil)...with their goal to seize power.
^the above is a very likely scenario.
So wouldn't it be better to work with Pakistan instead? Have a more stable Afghanistan that doesn't breed militants nor falls under Iranian influence?
Given that Pak has experience in fighting insurgencies and has tribal links with Afghanistan...along with some sway over Afghan Taliban...I'd say Pak is probably best suited country in the region. Moreover Pak/US have a history of working with each other...it had its ups and downs...but still workable.
I wonder whyPakistani establishment built te fence to separate Afghanistan from Pakistan. I would suggest that gents suggesting annexation of Afghanistan should look at the hostory of Afghanistan and NO ONE has so far in 200 years been able to annex/conquer it . Bhai please stop this "Aa bail mujhe Maar" plan and keep as far away from Afghanisgan as is possible. USSR tried and did not succeed , the US is hankering to get away as quickly as it can, and India merely lost 3 billion and wisely did not enter. 0lease leave afghanisitan to its people and walk away.You deserve more than a cokkie, for your in depth reply. @Signalian Could you add on to this?
That is not doable, if a vacum is left, IRAN the pariah of the world will take full advantage, and will make life a living hell for Paksitanis. Please get out of this passive mindset. Peace is not handed on a platter, it has to be won through blood and sweat.I wonder whyPakistani establishment built te fence to separate Afghanistan from Pakistan. I would suggest that gents suggesting annexation of Afghanistan should look at the hostory of Afghanistan and NO ONE has so far in 200 years been able to annex/conquer it . Bhai please stop this "Aa bail mujhe Maar" plan and keep as far away from Afghanisgan as is possible. USSR tried and did not succeed , the US is hankering to get away as quickly as it can, and India merely lost 3 billion and wisely did not enter. 0lease leave afghanisitan to its people and walk away.
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Sir,That is not doable, if a vacum is left, IRAN the pariah of the world will take full advantage, and will make life a living hell for Paksitanis. Please get out of this passive mindset. Peace is not handed on a platter, it has to be won through blood and sweat.
Sir @Khafee We have to look forward not only annexation of afghan territory but also a union treaty with the central asian states. And a revival of Timurid state of middle ages. That will give us a rise of phoenix.otherwise we will face same miserable period and our next generation too.if we will be successful in signing a union treaty with central asian states then we can be rise as a major world player not a regional one. And the resources of all these 7 states will put us all on high speed track of the progress and development. We can achieve a chinese level progress in 1.5 decade if we made this union possible. All type of resources will be in this union states speed up the progress and put breaks on imports of energy, food and machinery items. These states will become independent from all world powers in a decade and half.That is not doable, if a vacum is left, IRAN the pariah of the world will take full advantage, and will make life a living hell for Paksitanis. Please get out of this passive mindset. Peace is not handed on a platter, it has to be won through blood and sweat.
An unstable Afghanistan maybe in the interest of India...but no longer is it in interest of US(at least not directly).An unstable Afghanistan is in the benefit of US/India nexus.
A stable Afghanistan is in the benefit of Pakistan.
Why are we fencing our border of Afghanistan and Iran?
The day Afghanistan is stable, everyone knows what we will do.
And BTW in the war on terror, we lost the most perhaps more than Afghanistan.
this is going to happen one day may be not in our life time as this has been the dream of pakistan's deep state for decades nowI repeat, ANNEXATION OF AFGHANISTAN is the way forward.
Dream of Pak's deep state? Just curious as to what makes u say that?this is going to happen one day may be not in our life time as this has been the dream of pakistan's deep state for decades now
gen zia used to say that afghanistan is pakistan's fifth province.Dream of Pak's deep state? Just curious as to what makes u say that?
From what I can tell...it's that Pak's deep state wants no part in that mess. They want a Pak friendly or puppet government in Afghanistan...so as to not have the possibility of another hostile border...but that's about it. I wouldn't blame them...it is a mess...
...but from what I can tell...this "annexation" or "union" is only a dream of fanboys like me...while Pak's deep state is uninterested.
Sir, after leaving us on our own, America did a favour to us, they teached us a lesson, which, earlier, we failed to learn in the lap of america.
Chalo aisa he sahi. But let me elaborate.That is not doable, if a vacum is left, IRAN the pariah of the world will take full advantage, and will make life a living hell for Paksitanis. Please get out of this passive mindset. Peace is not handed on a platter, it has to be won through blood and sweat.