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China Sells J-10 Fourth Generation Fighters to Pakistan
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When you see itFor Those saying why J10x
While even India’s elite fighters could face a disadvantage against China’s new J-16, J-10C and J-20 jets in the air, the S-400 will provide an asymmetric means to target them reliably and at very long ranges. The system fields multiple very powerful interlinked radars and can lock onto stealth aircraft such as the J-20 or American F-22 at considerable ranges. The system can engage up to 80 targets simultaneously guiding up to 160 missiles, meaning a single unit can take on multiple fighter squadrons if needed. Indian S-400s will retain a 250km engagement range, although this could be extended further should the new 40N6E missile with a 400km range be purchased....
Arming India Against China: Russia to Accelerate S-400 Deliveries After Ladakh Standoff
Following an Indian request, Russia has agreed to accelerate deliveries of the first battalion of S-400 long range surface to air missile systems to the country aftermilitarywatchmagazine.com
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J-10C Vigorous Dragon "Firebird"
Since China has emerged as a new Major stakeholder in the World, therefore demands perfection & advancement in it's technology to counter & compete adversaries. In this context Chinese Airforce People Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) huge bulk of 3rd & 3.5th generation fighter are to be replaced by state of the art 4.5 Generation machines. PLAAF already having J-20 "Mighty Dragon" the 5th Generation platform speaks of it's capbillites & advancement. As mentioned earlier PLAAF has to replace obsolete fleet , they need a proper 4.5th Gen fighter. China is already producing Flanker Family's Indegenous version such as J-11 , J-15 & J-16 based on Su-27/Su-30 are not ideal for the replacement , because of these two reasons which are as follows:
1. Flanker derivated Indegenous platform are all heavy weight and twin engin platform which are too costly to be maintained.
2. Their heavy weight and bulky design may compromise their RCS, Operational availability & maintenance costs.
J-10C a Better the J10A/B
J-10C is best solution because of it's compact size, cost, maintainance & above all the capability which this beast provides.
J-10C outclasses it's older versions the J-10A & J-10B. J-10C differs from predecessor variants in few but key areas which are as follows:
DSI and Composite Material:
J-10C now has Divert less Supersonic Intakes (DSI) which was also installed on J-10B units. Hence with DSI it reduces the Aircraft Radar Cross Section (RCS). Along with DSI, the use of Radar Observant Material further reduces RCS and perhaps according to some online sources J-10C has RCS below 1.
Avioncs :
J-10C is Equiped with JL-10 AESA Radar. JL-10 AESA radar has 1200+ T/R modules enabling it resistant against Radar Jamming. Such a good number of T/R modules means more powerful Radar & Detection capability upto 200KM. It further gives big boost in BVR capbillity by making J-10C able to guide PL-15 dual-pulse rocket BVR Missile having range of 200Km.
J-10C is Equiped with state of the art IRST & EOTS (Electro Optical Targeting System) but unfortunately no one can find exact information about Chinese weapons. Since it has IRST & EOTS yet it can passively locate & engange target without exposing Radar signature gives J-10C a massive edge against any adversary.
WS-10B TVC Engine:
Recently J-10C was equiped with WS-10B TVC engine, with WS-10B it is performing impressively giving more boost in maneuvering and T/W ratio which now stands at impressive 1:16. This engine has also lowered the Chinese dependency on Russian Al-31FN engines.
Weaponry
AESA Radar, use of Composite Material & TCV engine, J-10C has impressive versatility of weaponry making it true Multirole platform.
Notably It can carry PL-15 with formidable range and PL-10 TVC WVR Missile ~+90- degree all aspect attack capbillity.
Also For SEAD role it can carry YJ-9 Anti-Radiation missile, for Anti-Ship role it can carry C-803, C-802 & Hypersonic CM-400 missiles. It can also carry huge varity of Guided and unguided munitions for Ground attack roles , with aid of IRST & EOTS (Electro Optical Targeting System)
Since China has emerged as a new Major stakeholder in the World, therefore demands perfection & advancement in it's technology to counter & compete adversaries. In this context Chinese Airforce People Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) huge bulk of 3rd & 3.5th generation fighter are to be replaced by state of the art 4.5 Generation machines. PLAAF already having J-20 "Mighty Dragon" the 5th Generation platform speaks of it's capbillites & advancement. As mentioned earlier PLAAF has to replace obsolete fleet , they need a proper 4.5th Gen fighter. China is already producing Flanker Family's Indegenous version such as J-11 , J-15 & J-16 based on Su-27/Su-30 are not ideal for the replacement , because of these two reasons which are as follows:
1. Flanker derivated Indegenous platform are all heavy weight and twin engin platform which are too costly to be maintained.
2. Their heavy weight and bulky design may compromise their RCS, Operational availability & maintenance costs.
J-10C a Better the J10A/B
J-10C is best solution because of it's compact size, cost, maintainance & above all the capability which this beast provides.
J-10C outclasses it's older versions the J-10A & J-10B. J-10C differs from predecessor variants in few but key areas which are as follows:
DSI and Composite Material:
J-10C now has Divert less Supersonic Intakes (DSI) which was also installed on J-10B units. Hence with DSI it reduces the Aircraft Radar Cross Section (RCS). Along with DSI, the use of Radar Observant Material further reduces RCS and perhaps according to some online sources J-10C has RCS below 1.
Avioncs :
J-10C is Equiped with JL-10 AESA Radar. JL-10 AESA radar has 1200+ T/R modules enabling it resistant against Radar Jamming. Such a good number of T/R modules means more powerful Radar & Detection capability upto 200KM. It further gives big boost in BVR capbillity by making J-10C able to guide PL-15 dual-pulse rocket BVR Missile having range of 200Km.
J-10C is Equiped with state of the art IRST & EOTS (Electro Optical Targeting System) but unfortunately no one can find exact information about Chinese weapons. Since it has IRST & EOTS yet it can passively locate & engange target without exposing Radar signature gives J-10C a massive edge against any adversary.
WS-10B TVC Engine:
Recently J-10C was equiped with WS-10B TVC engine, with WS-10B it is performing impressively giving more boost in maneuvering and T/W ratio which now stands at impressive 1:16. This engine has also lowered the Chinese dependency on Russian Al-31FN engines.
Weaponry
AESA Radar, use of Composite Material & TCV engine, J-10C has impressive versatility of weaponry making it true Multirole platform.
Notably It can carry PL-15 with formidable range and PL-10 TVC WVR Missile ~+90- degree all aspect attack capbillity.
Also For SEAD role it can carry YJ-9 Anti-Radiation missile, for Anti-Ship role it can carry C-803, C-802 & Hypersonic CM-400 missiles. It can also carry huge varity of Guided and unguided munitions for Ground attack roles , with aid of IRST & EOTS (Electro Optical Targeting System)
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Yes most of J10 is reverse engineering of Mirages with blueprint of levi
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Delta wings...
Lavi itself was F16 with deltas. Yahud sold the plans to Chinese after unkil sam told them to shut the project down. Ironically they used umriki money to develop it and then gave it to one of their enemies lol
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Can you share actual specifications of Levi jet , on which J10 is based
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LEVI JET SPECICATION AND DESING
know as father of J10 development
Overview of Program
Forward fuselage of an IAI Lavi
The IAI Lavi was a single-seat, single-engine multirole fighter aircraft, principally designed to conduct high-speed penetration and first-pass bombing missions while maintaining a high level of manoeuvrability and survivability.[8] It bore considerable similarities in terms of external appearance to the American F-16 fighter, having a similar configuration and several shared design features while being a slightly smaller aircraft. The engine air intake took the form of a plain chin type scoop with a splitter plate, externally resembling that of the F-16, yet internally it was substantially different. For one example, an inverse S-duct prevents exposure of the engine compressor blades to the front view of the aircraft. This drastically minimizes the frontal cross-sections of infrared and radar alike. In comparison to the F-16, the Lavi was furnished with a less powerful engine and a consequently lower thrust-to-weight ratio.[4]
It was envisioned that the Lavi's lifecycle costs would be considerably beneath those of the F-16, efforts were also made to achieve a lower procurement cost as well.[8] Like the F-16, the Lavi was an aerodynamically unstable aircraft, employing a quadruplex-redundant digital fly-by-wire system in order to provide stability and control; this was one of the aircraft's more innovative features.[
The Lavi was powered by a single Pratt & Whitney PW1120 turbofan engine, capable of generating 20,260 lb of thrust and enabling the aircraft to attain a maximum speed of Mach 1.85.[The engine, which was derived from the Pratt & Whitney F100 that powered the F-16, was the only aspect of the aircraft that Eine acknowledged to have created a dependency upon the US. While carrying eight 750lb bombs the Lavi possessed a combat radius of 250 nmi; an alternative armament of 2,000 lb bombs enabled a 650 nmi combat radius.[3] Possessing a 1.1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio while equipped with a combat payload, the airframe of the Lavi was designed to be capable of routinely withstanding up to 9g
Airframe
The Lavi employed a mainly traditional airframe, the majority of development focus being upon the avionics and systems to provide the aircraft's performance edge instead.In order to meet the low structural weight requirements imposed, the use of composite materials was employed in elements such as the wing and its substructure, as well as the fin and the skin. The forward fuselage was shaped in a manner that resulted in it naturally directing air into the engine intake and to avoid inlet blanking while flown at a sideslip condition.
The nose of a Lavi on static display in Beer-Sheva, 2006
The wing was unusual in having a shallow sweep on the trailing edge, giving a fleche planform; the straight leading edge was swept at 54 degrees, with maneuver flaps on the outboard sections. Two piece flaperons occupied most of the trailing edge, which was blended into the fuselage with long fillets.A total of nine flight control surfaces were actuated by a quadruplex fly-by-wire (FBW) system, which lacked any mechanical backup counterpart, providing a factor of aerodynamic instability of between 10 and 12 per cent.[4] The wingtips were cropped and fitted with missile rails to carry Rafael Python 3 air-to-air missile. At 38.5 square meters, the wing area was 38 per cent greater than the F-16, while the aspect ratio was 2.10, barely two-thirds that of the F-16. Development of the wing and fin were the responsibility of Grumman, who were contracted to initially manufacture the first 20 of each.
The canards, located slightly astern of and below the pilot, caused minimal obstruction in vision. They allowed for pitch control in a single-piece, all-moving arrangement.
The nose wheel was located aft of the intake and retracted rearwards, with the light-weight main gear mounted on the fuselage. A sharply swept vertical tail was mounted on a spine on top of the rear fuselage, and was supplemented by two steeply canted ventral strakes, mounted on the ends of the wing root fillets. Composites, used in 22% of the airframe, allowed aerolastic tailoring to the wings. They were used also in the vertical tail, the canards, and various doors and panels. IAI claimed a significant reduction in radar cross section.
General characteristics
know as father of J10 development
Overview of Program
Forward fuselage of an IAI Lavi
The IAI Lavi was a single-seat, single-engine multirole fighter aircraft, principally designed to conduct high-speed penetration and first-pass bombing missions while maintaining a high level of manoeuvrability and survivability.[8] It bore considerable similarities in terms of external appearance to the American F-16 fighter, having a similar configuration and several shared design features while being a slightly smaller aircraft. The engine air intake took the form of a plain chin type scoop with a splitter plate, externally resembling that of the F-16, yet internally it was substantially different. For one example, an inverse S-duct prevents exposure of the engine compressor blades to the front view of the aircraft. This drastically minimizes the frontal cross-sections of infrared and radar alike. In comparison to the F-16, the Lavi was furnished with a less powerful engine and a consequently lower thrust-to-weight ratio.[4]
It was envisioned that the Lavi's lifecycle costs would be considerably beneath those of the F-16, efforts were also made to achieve a lower procurement cost as well.[8] Like the F-16, the Lavi was an aerodynamically unstable aircraft, employing a quadruplex-redundant digital fly-by-wire system in order to provide stability and control; this was one of the aircraft's more innovative features.[
The Lavi was powered by a single Pratt & Whitney PW1120 turbofan engine, capable of generating 20,260 lb of thrust and enabling the aircraft to attain a maximum speed of Mach 1.85.[The engine, which was derived from the Pratt & Whitney F100 that powered the F-16, was the only aspect of the aircraft that Eine acknowledged to have created a dependency upon the US. While carrying eight 750lb bombs the Lavi possessed a combat radius of 250 nmi; an alternative armament of 2,000 lb bombs enabled a 650 nmi combat radius.[3] Possessing a 1.1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio while equipped with a combat payload, the airframe of the Lavi was designed to be capable of routinely withstanding up to 9g
Airframe
The Lavi employed a mainly traditional airframe, the majority of development focus being upon the avionics and systems to provide the aircraft's performance edge instead.In order to meet the low structural weight requirements imposed, the use of composite materials was employed in elements such as the wing and its substructure, as well as the fin and the skin. The forward fuselage was shaped in a manner that resulted in it naturally directing air into the engine intake and to avoid inlet blanking while flown at a sideslip condition.
The nose of a Lavi on static display in Beer-Sheva, 2006
The wing was unusual in having a shallow sweep on the trailing edge, giving a fleche planform; the straight leading edge was swept at 54 degrees, with maneuver flaps on the outboard sections. Two piece flaperons occupied most of the trailing edge, which was blended into the fuselage with long fillets.A total of nine flight control surfaces were actuated by a quadruplex fly-by-wire (FBW) system, which lacked any mechanical backup counterpart, providing a factor of aerodynamic instability of between 10 and 12 per cent.[4] The wingtips were cropped and fitted with missile rails to carry Rafael Python 3 air-to-air missile. At 38.5 square meters, the wing area was 38 per cent greater than the F-16, while the aspect ratio was 2.10, barely two-thirds that of the F-16. Development of the wing and fin were the responsibility of Grumman, who were contracted to initially manufacture the first 20 of each.
The canards, located slightly astern of and below the pilot, caused minimal obstruction in vision. They allowed for pitch control in a single-piece, all-moving arrangement.
The nose wheel was located aft of the intake and retracted rearwards, with the light-weight main gear mounted on the fuselage. A sharply swept vertical tail was mounted on a spine on top of the rear fuselage, and was supplemented by two steeply canted ventral strakes, mounted on the ends of the wing root fillets. Composites, used in 22% of the airframe, allowed aerolastic tailoring to the wings. They were used also in the vertical tail, the canards, and various doors and panels. IAI claimed a significant reduction in radar cross section.
General characteristics
- Crew: 1
- Length: 14.57 m (47 ft 10 in)
- Wingspan: 8.78 m (28 ft 10 in)
- Height: 4.78 m (15 ft 8 in)
- Wing area: 33 m2 (360 sq ft)
- Empty weight: 7,031 kg (15,501 lb)
- Gross weight: 9,991 kg (22,026 lb)
- Max takeoff weight: 19,277 kg (42,499 lb)
- Powerplant: 1 × Pratt & Whitney PW1120 afterburning turbofan, 91.5 kN (20,600 lbf) with afterburner
- Maximum speed: 1,965 km/h (1,221 mph, 1,061 kn)
- Maximum speed: Mach 1.6
- Range: 3,700 km (2,300 mi, 2,000 nmi)
- Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
- Rate of climb: 254 m/s (50,000 ft/min)
- Wing loading: 303.2 kg/m2 (62.1 lb/sq ft)
- Thrust/weight: 0.94
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Thank You for that insightful post, you could have made one for PAk with J10 & J15 ?
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Sir throughout ur posts here and elsewhere I have noticed u have lots of love towards and extensive knowledge about Pakistan and its armed forces...
...and for that in my mind I grant u an honorary Pakistani citizenship. I'm sure all the resident Pakistanis here will agree. It's always a treat to read ur posts...keep on enlightening us.
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I like it!
This is very realistic keeping in mind a2a refueling capabilities of PAF.