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China Sells J-10 Fourth Generation Fighters to Pakistan

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They do, that is why I asked you guys. ‘∞‘
Hopefully we have them plus build Ra'ad as a sub munition dispenser. Destroy Indian armor 300 kms inside their territory before it can deploy on the front.
 

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Hopefully we have them plus build Ra'ad as a sub munition dispenser. Destroy Indian armor 300 kms inside their territory before it can deploy on the front.

I remember seeing a Chinese one on JF-17

EDIT: Found it!

GB-6 Airborne Dispenser & CM102 Anti Radiation Missile! ∫øø§


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I remember seeing a Chinese one on JF-17

EDIT: Found it!

GB-6 Airborne Dispenser & CM102 Anti Radiation Missile! ∫øø§


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Comparable to the American JSSOW bomb used in Kosovo and Iraq, another NORINCO offering is the GB-6 cluster glide bomb. It is stealthy, has 130km range, weighs about 680 kilograms, while carrying a 500 kg payload. Like the BRM1, it also debuted at Zhuhai 2012, under the name TL-500. While it can be fitted with a unitary warhead, its primary function is to disperse cluster munitions, either to destroy grounded enemy aircraft and runways, or to wipe out tank columns from above.

 

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I was more interested in the Sensor Fused bomblet in CBU-105 deployed at standoff ranges.
My memory is fuzzy but I think PAF has a domestic version of the CBU-105 as well?
 

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My memory is fuzzy but I think PAF has a domestic version of the CBU-105 as well?
We have a local version of Rockeyes cluster bomb. Don't think we have these sensor fused autonomous copper energy top attack sub munitions.
I think it is called Haffar or Haftar (or maybe it is our copy of durandal)
 

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I have this one more thing in mind,

Maybe just maybe,

PAF thought of cancelling horus upgrade and Instead China offered some really pretty deal of J-10s (Used or maybe new or both) so PAF might have made a wiser decision, What backs this up is that we have no update on HORUS upgrade yet.

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Even if HORUS are not coming, Keep ROSE Squadrons and Cannibalise all frames to keep ROSE Sqds up and running.
 

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You can only push it so far before the design catches up with you. Whether you like it or not J-10 is superior then any of the JF blocks can and would be.
There are many other aircrafts designs superior to J-10 also. JF-17 was envisioned to be upgraded at many levels and thats being done.
 

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You make interesting points, but unfortunately not valid. Allow me to explain, what I know.

Blk3 - The new ASEA radar, and corona combined are the cause of this programs delay.

Azm - Is on track IA, and I expect it to be better than J31 and exceed J20 in terms of capability

Off topic: Has anyone seen the new Chinese Small Diameter Bombs for J31/J20 ~^~
wah g wah kya baat ha.........aj to roza torh he dia apne sir, Aj ka din mery lea boht mubarak ha........aj pehli baar outside PDF you have replied me!:cool:

AESA was always supposed to be KLJ7A for Blk3 and other chines radar for upgrade of older Blk 1-2.(again this happed in Sohail Aman era, see his statements/interviews)

Corona is actually the reason for its current delay! and frankly its a very recent thingy.......

Im talking about Sohail Aman's statements from 2017/18, he had categorically said that Blk3 will hit production line late 2019/ early 2020(read Quwa)

And according to him, (thats when he inaugurated Aviation City with Khaqan Abbasi) he said that the prototype of 5th gen Project Azm will fly @2024/2045....Now that prototype will fly on 2027/28 or maybe 2030, reason Mujahid Anwar's perfectionist approach and insistence on inducting a finished and complete product. Not unfinished product like how Sohail Aman had put Blk2 in production without IFR probe with hopes of updating them later with it.


Mujahid Anwar isnt like that his meezaaj is very different to Sohail Aman, he wants full product and also he had export orders to deliver of Myanmese and Nigerian Blk2, along with change of plans of now inducting the 26 twin seater JF17B(which wasnt suppose to be inducted when Sohail Aman was around) hence these r the combine reasons for delay of 1.5 years of Blk3.


As for corona, thats a 2020 thing, it actually has further delayed this project, hence why also we r hearing the multiple platforms induction news (both from East and West according to u). Basically now Mujahid Anwar is feeling the heat of his delay of original Blk3 production schedule, which was in late 2019 /early 2020 well before corona!!!!!!!
 
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Only if we are paying for it, check out J7 case when china have given us for free
F-7 is another story. PAF made many changes in original J-7, acquired around 180 F-7 in total and provisions were made in ARF to rebuilt it.
If PAF goes for 150+ J-10 then its relatable.
 
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We have a local version of Rockeyes cluster bomb. Don't think we have these sensor fused autonomous copper energy top attack sub munitions.
I think it is called Haffar or Haftar (or maybe it is our copy of durandal)
@Signalian Can you shed more light on this topic?
 

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Only if we are paying for it, check out J7 case when china have given us for free
F-7 is another story. PAF made many changes in original J-7, acquired around 180 F-7 in total and provisions were made in ARF to rebuilt it.
If PAF goes for 150+ J-10 then its relatable.

I think he meant when we got 40 F7PGs on emergency basis during 2001–02 standoff with India.
 
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