China Sells J-10 Fourth Generation Fighters to Pakistan

[Mastankhan]

Ok, I wasn't aware that the US had offered the F110-GE-132 to Pakistan. I had assumed they were off the table just like the AIM-120C7.

Hi,

There is more to an aircraft than a high thrust engine option.

Right now we are in the general information / disinformation stage.

Just remember---it is a major weapons purchase---. So---not all the truth would come out about the capabilities of the machine.

Technically speaking---the general public will never know what the real capability of the machine is till it is put into action against the enemy---.

AL31 means the obvious---. There is another aircraft in the making---.

 

[Mastankhan]

Ok, I wasn't aware that the US had offered the F110-GE-132 to Pakistan. I had assumed they were off the table just like the AIM-120C7.

Hi,

There is more to an aircraft than a high thrust engine option.

Right now we are in the general information / disinformation stage.

Just remember---it is a major weapons purchase---. So---not all the truth would come out about the capabilities of the machine.

Technically speaking---the general public will never know what the real capability of the machine is till it is put into action against the enemy---.

AL31 means the obvious---. There is another aircraft in the making---.

 

[AliYusuf]

A naive and simple query for all fellow forum brothers ...

Sheikh Rasheed has clearly backtracked a bit from his earlier statement of

["PAF having acquired JS-10 from China to counter the IAF Rafale, will fly a full squadron of 25 planes on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

He is now saying

["Chinese J-10C will perform flypast on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

So brothers, what do you think is going on?

@Khafee @Mastankhan @rhinosqdn @Scorpio @TsAr @aliraza @Gripen9 @Mingle @Counter-Errorist @PWFI @TomCat @baqai @BATMAN @Farhan Ullah @space cadet

And anyone whom me addled grey matter has forgotten to remember, kindly do respond.

 

[Mingle]

A naive and simple query for all fellow forum brothers ...

Sheikh Rasheed has clearly backtracked a bit from his earlier statement of

["PAF having acquired JS-10 from China to counter the IAF Rafale, will fly a full squadron of 25 planes on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

He is now saying

["Chinese J-10C will perform flypast on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

So brothers, what do you think is going on?

@Khafee @Mastankhan @rhinosqdn @Scorpio @TsAr @aliraza @Gripen9 @Mingle @Counter-Errorist @PWFI @TomCat @baqai @BATMAN @Farhan Ullah @space cadet

And anyone whom me addled grey matter has forgotten to remember, kindly do respond.

Sheikhu did mistake first now he says correct it's J10C pardon his ignorance

 

[AliYusuf]

Sheikhu did mistake first now he says correct it's J10C pardon his ignorance

Actually, he did more than that. In the first statement, he said PAF is getting Chinese JS-10 to counter the IAF Rafale and that a whole squadron will be flown on 23rd March: but, later he retracts and just says Chinese J-10C will flypast on the 23rd March. Thus, ownership of the flypast J-10Cs changed or became unclear i.e. from Pakistani assets to Chinese assets on solidarity role with Pakistan.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

A naive and simple query for all fellow forum brothers ...

Sheikh Rasheed has clearly backtracked a bit from his earlier statement of

["PAF having acquired JS-10 from China to counter the IAF Rafale, will fly a full squadron of 25 planes on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

He is now saying

["Chinese J-10C will perform flypast on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

So brothers, what do you think is going on?

@Khafee @Mastankhan @rhinosqdn @Scorpio @TsAr @aliraza @Gripen9 @Mingle @Counter-Errorist @PWFI @TomCat @baqai @BATMAN @Farhan Ullah @space cadet

And anyone whom me addled grey matter has forgotten to remember, kindly do respond.

It's hard to tell with guys like Sheikh Rashid. They just blurt out whatever rumours / information they might have heard, and felt beneficial to their own selves. There's nothing calculated about their statements. He could've simply meant Chinese-origin J-10Cs, but with PAF.

 

[TsAr]

Actually, he did more than that. In the first statement, he said PAF is getting Chinese JS-10 to counter the IAF Rafale and that a whole squadron will be flown on 23rd March: but, later he retracts and just says Chinese J-10C will flypast on the 23rd March. Thus, ownership of the flypast J-10Cs changed or became unclear i.e. from Pakistani assets to Chinese assets on solidarity role with Pakistan.

They are coming for sure, now whether they will be 25 or 35 that cannot be sure.

 

[rhinosqdn]

They are coming for sure, now whether they will be 25 or 35 that cannot be sure.

Well either 18 +9 = 27, or 18 + 18 = 36 is logical.

25 seems a very odd number given how PAF sqdns work.

 

[TsAr]

Well either 18 +9 = 27, or 18 + 18 = 36 is logical.

25 seems a very odd number given how PAF sqdns work.

Sir at his age he could hardly remember the figure, he was meant to convey a msg which he did

 

[rhinosqdn]

Actually, he did more than that. In the first statement, he said PAF is getting Chinese JS-10 to counter the IAF Rafale and that a whole squadron will be flown on 23rd March: but, later he retracts and just says Chinese J-10C will flypast on the 23rd March. Thus, ownership of the flypast J-10Cs changed or became unclear i.e. from Pakistani assets to Chinese assets on solidarity role with Pakistan.

Sir, J10 is InshaAllah a done deal. all that remains to be seen, is when PAF will publicly disclose them, and the rest of the new platforms.

 

[Farhan Ullah]

A naive and simple query for all fellow forum brothers ...

Sheikh Rasheed has clearly backtracked a bit from his earlier statement of

["PAF having acquired JS-10 from China to counter the IAF Rafale, will fly a full squadron of 25 planes on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

He is now saying

["Chinese J-10C will perform flypast on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

So brothers, what do you think is going on?

@Khafee @Mastankhan @rhinosqdn @Scorpio @TsAr @aliraza @Gripen9 @Mingle @Counter-Errorist @PWFI @TomCat @baqai @BATMAN @Farhan Ullah @space cadet

And anyone whom me addled grey matter has forgotten to remember, kindly do respond.

So the OIC members will also be present at the Parade. This means that if Chinese J-10s would be there, this would mean "Ba Yi" (their equivalent of Sherdils, and they fly J-10s) will be there to present a display.
If we take "J-10Cs" then it means PAF J-10Cs will do a fly past, combine that with the performance of Ba Yi, this would be like a powershow!
Showing the Muslim world that Pak-China alliance is the "next big thing", perhaps unofficially accepting the formation of a new bloc.

I find it hard to believe Chinese J-10Cs would come for a fly past, it would definitely be their Aerobatic team.
J-10Cs makes no sense, unless PAF ones.

 

[BATMAN]

Showing the Muslim world that Pak-China alliance is the "next big thing", perhaps unofficially accepting the formation of a new bloc.

since when Muslim world become Pakistan's security threat? Pakistan has been buying Chinese HW since long, this does not translate to any bloc.
If you are referring to the new bloc. Imran Khan and team has been pursuing against Islamic world, does not include China, and this block has only two countries namely; Iran and Pakistan and it's not formally announced yet.

 

[BATMAN]

A naive and simple query for all fellow forum brothers ...

Sheikh Rasheed has clearly backtracked a bit from his earlier statement of

["PAF having acquired JS-10 from China to counter the IAF Rafale, will fly a full squadron of 25 planes on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

He is now saying

["Chinese J-10C will perform flypast on the 23rd of March 2022 Pakistan Day Parade".]​

So brothers, what do you think is going on?

@Khafee @Mastankhan @rhinosqdn @Scorpio @TsAr @aliraza @Gripen9 @Mingle @Counter-Errorist @PWFI @TomCat @baqai @BATMAN @Farhan Ullah @space cadet

And anyone whom me addled grey matter has forgotten to remember, kindly do respond.

There's nothing in his (SR) statement which we can consider a (technical) leak.
As far the term, JS-10 is concerned, it was definitely slip of tounge and as well the squadron strength fly past.
Correct is... on 23rd March J10 will perform fly past, which will be less than squadron.
IMO, there was no need to highlight Indian Rafael, it was diplomatically and technically wrong choice of words.

 

[iceman007]

 

[baqai]

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