China Sells J-10 Fourth Generation Fighters to Pakistan

[Cookie Monster]

3

Platforms for same engine,
J10 , j15 what is the 3rd one?

JH7??
@Khafee sir if u can...plz tell us which engine is going to be used on all 3 of these.

 

[PWFI]

JH-7 is not compatible with russian AL series, 3rd could be project Azm?

 

[AliYusuf]

3 Platforms, one engine of different flavors, higher thrust

Kindly elaborate on the higher thrust part for us lesser mortals.
I am really anxious about what's coming.

 

[TomCat]

3

Platforms for same engine,
J10 , j15 what is the 3rd one?

Probably J-31

 

[Khafee]

JH-7 is not compatible with russian AL series, 3rd could be project Azm?

 

[Khafee]

Kindly elaborate on the higher thrust part for us lesser mortals.
I am really anxious about what's coming.

WS10A = +/-30,000 lbs dry thrust, on a good day?

AL31 = Will depend on platform, on the J10 it will be at least 31,500lbs dry. Although initially, it could be de-rated to increase MTBO.

 

[AliYusuf]

WS10A = +/-30,000 lbs dry thrust, on a good day?

AL31 = Will depend on platform, on the J10 it will be at least 31,500lbs dry. Although initially, it could be de-rated to increase MTBO.

Got it.

 

[PWFI]

WS10A = +/-30,000 lbs dry thrust, on a good day?

AL31 = Will depend on platform, on the J10 it will be at least 31,500lbs dry. Although initially, it could be de-rated to increase MTBO.

So you confirm, that PAF J-15/J-10/JH-7 will get/upgraded with Russian AL series of engines?

 

[Khafee]

So you confirm, that PAF J-15/J-10/JH-7 will get/upgraded with Russian AL series of engines?

Not "will get", "have gotten." I mentioned this earlier on the J15 thread as well.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Not "will get", "have gotten." I mentioned this earlier on the J15 thread as well.

So then the news of ToT on AL31 is true as well? Even if somewhat limited ToT?

 

[AliYusuf]

WS10A = +/-30,000 lbs dry thrust, on a good day?

AL31 = Will depend on platform, on the J10 it will be at least 31,500lbs dry. Although initially, it could be de-rated to increase MTBO.

As long as we get an engine with ratings close to that of WS-10B i.e. within 1000 to 1500 lbs of the thrust of WS-10B, then I am ok, as it is coming with some ToT.

 

[Cookie Monster]

So then the news of ToT on AL31 is true as well? Even if somewhat limited ToT?

Damn...Pakistan must have given the Russians some special chooran to convince them for AL31 ToT.

 

[War Historian]

Not "will get", "have gotten." I mentioned this earlier on the J15 thread as well.

That's the news of the new year. So Pakistan wisely choose the mature and more reliable Russian engine instead of Chinese engine.
Russian engine have longer life span than the Chinese engine, almost double life span than the chinese.
My fellow readers are questioning about the WS-10B engine.
I think Pakistan has choose for the russian engine because of reliability , better thrust and longer life span. Chinese had switch over to their own engine because they don't want to continue depending on russian engines, even chinese engines are still not parallel to the russian engines.
Chinese have large set-up for engine manufacturing. So Chinese don't worry about the life span of the WS-10. When they face problem in any WS-10 engine, they remove the old one and insert the new one. Its just like plug and play for them. But Pakistan can't enjoy this luxury, PAF have very limited resources so they can only go for a reliable engine.
So they choose AL 31F, as brother @AliYusuf said earlier with ToT Pakistan will also buy the russian leverage and future assistance in AZM NGF. I hope that will work fine for us in long term. Thanks

 

[AliYusuf]

I think Pakistan has choose for the russian engine because of reliability , better thrust and longer life span. Chinese had switch over to their own engine because they don't want to continue depending on russian engines, even chinese engines are still not parallel to the russian engines.

The WS-10B the engine currently powering the J-10C has full AB thrust rated between 31k to 32K lbs.
The standard Russian AL-31FN3 is rated at around 28K lbs full AB thrust.
@Khafee Sb is informing us that these will be tweaked as per the platform i.e. J-10C, J-15B, and JH-7.

 

[War Historian]

The WS-10B the engine currently powering the J-10C has full AB thrust rated between 31k to 32K lbs.
The standard Russian AL-31FN3 is rated at around 28K lbs full AB thrust.
@Khafee Sb is informing us that these will be tweaked as per the platform i.e. J-10C, J-15B, and JH-7.

Sir @Khafee has told in a post earlier today about the thrust comparison, where Sir told AL 31F has better thrust than the chinese WS-10